Tootsie controversy

I saw the twitter post from the girl claiming the shirts were hateful. She's saying that hateful people will purchase the merchandise JUST to perpetuate their own trans-phobia. Personally, I think that's really stupid.

If I saw the "Being a woman" tote bag without seeing the Tootsie logo on the back, I would think "umm..okay?" but I don't think anyone is going to buy the merch just to be hateful.

I see how it can be seen as problematic, but just about everything nowadays is..

TheBroadwayBubble said: "There was some controversy on social media this weekend over..."

Pick any topic and you can start a sentence this way... which usually translates into a handful of people (or one) person actually saying it. That used to be called an opinion, not a controversy.

Brian07663NJ said: "Context is everything. Everyone wants to be offended by the slightest thing. Get over it. These items were meant in the humor of the show."

Exactly. And from what I've heard, the show has some moments that are pretty progressive

Nobody can do anything anymore without their being "controversy." Its why Im off twitter and will forever be off twitter. Its just toxic. Theres a ton of hate in this country right now, yes, but we don't need to make everything into an argument is ridiculous. Saying "Well they'll buy these to be hateful!!!" is honestly giving them too much credit and just causing a problem where there isn't one.

It seems like it started out with good intentions: merch about female empowerment. But it has since backfired due to the blindspots of the producing/merch team and the sensitivities of modern culture. Hopefully it can be a learning opportunity for all.

Updated On: 4/8/19 at 11:00 AM

"Being a woman is no job for a man" -- Tootsie

SomethingPeculiar said: "It seems like it started out with good intentions: merch about female empowerment.But it has since backfired due to the blindspots of the producing/merch team and the sensitivities of modern culture. Hopefully it can be a learning opportunity for all."

Well, there's always one. They had no "blind spots" and there is NOTHING wrong with anything I've read about here. It's "modern culture" that's the problem, and what are they supposed to learn exactly - that a handful of Twitter types were offended? It's a bore.

YvanEhtNioj said: "I saw the twitter post from the girl claiming the shirts were hateful. She's saying that hateful people will purchase the merchandise JUST to perpetuate their own trans-phobia. Personally, I think that's really stupid.

If I saw the "Being a woman" tote bag without seeing the Tootsie logo on the back, I would think "umm..okay?" but I don't think anyone is going to buy the merch just to be hateful.

I see how it can be seen as problematic, but just about everything nowadays is.."

I feel like reading the "Being a woman" quote is only offensive if you see a transwoman as actually being a man. To me, it's clear the quote is about cis men. I guess that's mildly offensive to drag queens.

But to the other point, in what world do hateful people purchase Broadway merch to perpetuate their hateful ideas? At those prices? People are perfectly capable of making their own T-shirts and dumb signs to bring to rallies. I don't think we need to worry about them buying merch.

people need to stop being so butthurt about everything and making everything about them. its not that serious.

People also need to stop using "butthurt" as a form of ridicule.

At any rate, the "woman/man" quote requires context to understand why it works in the show as well as to mark it as potentially trans-phobic, so I don't think it's worth trying to manufacture outrage to the point of boycott or shaming the show. There are plenty of one-liners in the book to choose from for merchandising. It's unfortunate that their choice resulted in such negativity.

These items were meant in the humor of the show.

Well, they were also meant for display in the vast general public. Not everyone is going to know the context of the quote when they see it (or even be aware of the show itself, should they even happen to notice the word "Tootsie" on the item as it passes by). To me, this is not really about the person who purchases it, but about every random person who sees it and how they may react. I do think it's important to analyze the reaction and responses of quoted merchandise you specifically want to represent your product. Provocative statements and imagery is fine if your show desires to elicit strong political/social opinions and reactions. I don't think this specific negativity was a desired outcome for the usage of this quote on the merchandise.

"Friend of Dorothy" I actually think is kind of cute - I feel like I'm missing what's problematic, but am willing to be convinced otherwise

I think it's cute as well and will gladly purchase it. If anyone actually think it may be homophobic, they can't be too familiar with LGBT culture and history. That would not be the derogatory slur of choice for homophobes.

Yes, pretty much everything can spark outrage for any reason. This is true of the past and has increased exponentially as rapidly as the evolution of communication technology. People just don't have to grab a quill o scratch out a response and wait a fortnight or more for the message to be delivered by horse or typeset, mass-printed and distributed for sale. And it will likely continue along the same trajectory as it always has. To ignore it and blame the snowflakes is as stupid as standing naked in a blizzard yelling at the climate for changing.

Like, I don't even know how it could be considered transphobic.

It's about the potential for transphobes to leverage the phrase (e.g. providing ammunition to ignorant bigots).