Well I caught the opening number. I wish I didn’t.
HeyMrMusic said: "DramaTeach said: "I’m so confused. There was a pre-tape a couple of days ago with two supposedly huge broadway stars. What happened to that? Did they mean Rannells and Gad? Was their shtick pre-recorded?"
I figured it was the Jay-Z and Alicia Keys performance. Why else wouldn’t they bring Jay-Z out on stage?"
Did we really need JayZ during that performance and Alicia always performs it seems giving people the wrong impression thinking she's in the show! People do think she's in the show on Broadway!
Did Outsiders win Musical with no acting wins?
Was Memphis the last time this happened?
blaxx said: "Did Outsiders win Musical with no acting wins?
Was Memphis the last time this happened?"
God, Memphis was trash. Justice for American Idiot.
Everytime “Memphis” is mentioned, an angel loses its wings.
KJisgroovy said: "It looks like The Outsiders have already raised their ticket prices? Is that possible? My husband is visually impaired, and we need to sit in the front row (usually not premium). It was 229$ yesterday, and those same seats are now premium priced at 349$. Obviously,they can change whatever they want... and good for them... but that's wild."
One of the seats in front row is always a rush seat. I was looking at random dates in the fall and the front row for OUTSIDERS weekdays is $199.
I'm guessing the ones you were looking at was probably during high season and perhaps during the weekend?
HenryTDobson said: "Super sad for Kelli. Poor woman has had to sit through this crap EIGHT times and lost 7 of those times...."
Susan Lucci for TV, Glenn Close for film, and Kelli for theater.
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/29/14
Yep, they did. The cheapest is now $99 instead of $69.
KJisgroovy said: "It looks like The Outsiders have already raised their ticket prices? Is that possible? My husband is visually impaired, and we need to sit in the front row (usually not premium). It was 229$ yesterday, and those same seats are now premium priced at 349$. Obviously,they can change whatever they want... and good for them... but that's wild."
BalconyClub said: "My favorite moments of the telecast were the exitsof the Ensembles intothe wings, quicklymugging for the camera."
Totally agree! I loved that!
Winners by the Numbers
blaxx said: "Did Outsiders win Musical with no acting wins?
Was Memphis the last time this happened?"
A Strange Loop and Gentlemen's Guide since Memphis
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/14/11
Robbie2 said: "Winners by the Numbers
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Appropriate won 3 (Paulson, Revival, Lighting)
Also 1 for Enemy of the People.
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/26/19
blaxx said: "Did Outsiders win Musical with no acting wins?
Was Memphis the last time this happened?"
The Outsiders felt like an ensemble piece to me, although there is clearly a lead character. It felt very well rounded and the most flawless out of them all. Loved Suffs at Public but on Broadway it felt too didactic and too rehearsed, although the win for the best book is fully earned. HK is just fluff, there's nothing original or profound about it. WFE I think was failed by its lackluster score. I loved the show, but can't remember a single song. And well, Illinoise is... Illinoise. I've stated my opinion about it many times before. The Outsiders had that win in the bag, I think. Well deserved.
I definitely did not enjoy the telecast this year and agree that last year’s ceremony was ironically one of the best in a while because the strike forced them to trim the fat. But for me the biggest problem this year wasn’t any of the bits or the truly terrible sound or camera work, it was the nominees. These shows obviously have their fans, but there’s no denying that this was a weak season despite being quite crowded. Even if the telecast was produced perfectly, I don’t think the performances were ever going to be more than just okay.
Featured Actor Joined: 8/27/22
I was not shocked Outsiders won based on the NYT polls and the amount of dislike here for HK, which was my personal pick from this season.
I thought the sound quality from the performances were just awful. Last year, only &Juliet had major sound issues. This year, I thought most had terrible sound problem. The camerawork also seemed bizarre. If I had not seen these shows in person, I’m not sure if I would want to see them based on the clips.
PipingHotPiccolo said: "everyones rightfully complaining about these awards show but the answer is staring us right in the face.
last year, we cut the fat, ie the desperate attempts at humor, and the silly bits and dance spectacles, and just had people give out hardware and honor shows. it worked brilliantly."
I fully agree. Televise more of the awards and get rid of everything extraneous. Why did we have athletes introducing the introduction to best play, for instance?
Broadway61004 said: "Robbie2 said: "Winners by the Numbers
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Appropriate won 3 (Paulson, Revival, Lighting)
Also 1 for Enemy of the People."
Copied from BW has the wrong count on their home page!
BalconyClub said: "My favorite moments of the telecast were the exitsof the Ensembles intothe wings, quicklymugging for the camera."
Except the cast of Suffs all running passed Jenna Bainbridge. That felt really awkward to me
Mr. Wormwood said: "blaxx said: "Did Outsiders win Musical with no acting wins?
Was Memphis the last time this happened?"
A Strange Loop and Gentlemen's Guide since Memphis"
Thanks!
Thoughts on a surprising yet meh evening:
The ceremony was a million times better without scriptwriters. Sorry, guys.
The Koch was a bit too intimate for a Tony venue.
Lousy opening number... another recent misfire from Tom Kitt (along with Amanda Green and Adam Blackstone). DeBose's singing voice sounding iffy probably made Eden Espinosa sound like Pavarotti to some of you. Also, why did DeBose look like she was exiled from the female ensemble of The Great Gatsby?
Groffsauce had the best speech of the night, while BJJ showed some amusing shade towards An Enemy of the People.
The Chita dance tribute was touching but didn't exactly give Illinoise a decent run for their money.
Apt, workmanlike performances from the nominated musicals. They may attract some fresh eyes... or what's left of B'way's summer crowds could simply brush up on Wicked again before the first film releases.
If this really is it for DeBose hosting the Tonys for the time being, she didn't end the way I hoped she would. I adore her and I know she is much better than this, I just do, and I hope she can craft a redemption arc with You-Know-What if she's still attached.
Broadway should (and probably will) gain more traction next season with so many big names and stars coming in, and more TBA. I'm pretty confident we'll taste pre-COVID total grosses and attendance figures by next spring.
Tony reviews and ratings will not be pretty tomorrow.
So Suggs won best score AND book but lost best musical? That’s pretty rare!!! Right?
binau said: "So Suggs won best score ANDbook but lost best musical? That’s pretty rare!!! Right?"
Into the Woods, Drowsy Chaperone, Falsettos, Ragtime, Parade, Urinetown, On The 20th Century, and Woman of the Year all won Best Score + Best Book without winning Best Musical. Perhaps others too.
BOM said: "That suffs performance makes me glad I didn’t sit through 2.5 hours of that."
The show is much better and it’s criminal that they went with that number. I know their team swoons over it, it’s their “it” song and there’s lots of emotional attachment to it.
I’ll stick to what I said a few weeks ago - they should’ve done Fire & Tea. Bring in the pyrotechnics, it’s a large ensemble belty number that still conveys the overall message, themes, and ferocity of the show without spoiling too much of what it has to offer. The Outsiders knew what they were doing with The Rumble bit and Suffs really lost out on an equal sum of good buzz and ticket sales because they defaulted to such an ordinary choice of a song. It’s a beautiful number and was a lovely performance — but no one who saw that who isn’t already reasonably partial to the show, it’s subject matter, or Hillary Clinton is going to be won over by it I don’t think. They needed to get creative and they did the furthest from that.
Swing Joined: 5/3/24
SUFFS performance perfectly encapsulates why it won book and score and lost musical and direction.
Great song, horrible staging
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