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Delta Variant and Broadway
#50Delta Variant and Broadway
Posted: 7/19/21 at 3:22pm
And all that said - why don't you just...wait and see? If things are mandated to change or close, everything will happen automatically or with a few clicks of a mouse (and possibly some patience if refunds become a thing). At this point, airlines have figured out how to deal with mass cancelations/changes. And all Broadway tickets are refundable up to 2 hours before curtain.
So there's no need to stress in July about what is or is not happening in September. As of today, everything is proceeding as planned, so don't waste emotional energy on hypotheticals.
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#51Delta Variant and Broadway
Posted: 7/19/21 at 3:23pm
"How can anyone say you should have the right to make others sick and die. It's utter nonsense."
Similar to the nation's, shall we say, unhealthy relationship to guns.
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BroadwayRox3588
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/5/16
#52Delta Variant and Broadway
Posted: 7/19/21 at 3:24pm
dented146 said: "In this country where every single person has had every opportunity to be vaccinated the pandemicIS and WILLbe a pandemic of the unvaccinated. And I have no sympathy for those people, who are not medically compromised, that get Covid-none whatsoever.They are stupid and selfish. I do not fear them because I am vaccinated but I have no respect for their sense of values. I don't believe Fox has told people not to get vaccinated. At least, I have not heard them say that. They have said that people should have a choice. I think that is nonsense and idiotic. How can anyone say you should have the right to make others sick and die. It's utter nonsense.
All people should be vaccinated and I look forward to attending a Broadway show without wearing a mask. And I will."
To your point about Fox News, Tucker Carlson has certainly sown enough doubt about the vaccine, that he might as well be telling people not to get vaccinated.
#53Delta Variant and Broadway
Posted: 7/19/21 at 3:44pm
Fully vaxxed with Pfizer. Got a breakthrough case via the delta variant a few weeks ago. It was obviously very frustrating but the symptoms were very manageable. For the most part, it felt like a sinus infection. I’ve had upper respiratory infections or colds where I’ve felt more miserable. Attributing that fully to the effectiveness of the vaccines in preventing serious illness.
We should all be prepared to see cases continue to rise in the near future as this variant is so transmissible, and can infect fully vaccinated people. Hopefully with local vaccination levels being much higher here than in other parts of the country, we can get by with showing proof of vaccination, and everyone being required to wear a mask as an added layer of protection.
-There's the muddle in the middle. There's the puddle where the poodle did the piddle."
#54Delta Variant and Broadway
Posted: 7/19/21 at 3:50pm
BroadwayRox3588 said: "Jordan Levinson said: "Suddenly the thought of B'way reopening at 100% capacityin 2021 seems highly unlikely."
So...should I cancel my flight now? 
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Please don't. Jordan Levinson has been all doom and gloom and pessimistic forever on here. It's obviously a personal choice for you, but I don't think you should feel like you HAVE to cancel this second.
"There’s nothing quite like the power and the passion of Broadway music. "
BCfitasafiddle
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/25/20
#55Delta Variant and Broadway
Posted: 7/19/21 at 3:56pm
musikman said: "Fully vaxxed with Pfizer. Got a breakthrough case via the delta variant a few weeks ago. It was obviously very frustrating but the symptoms were very manageable. For the most part, it felt like a sinus infection. I’ve had upper respiratory infections or colds where I’ve felt more miserable. Attributing that fully to the effectiveness of the vaccines in preventing serious illness.
We should all be prepared to see cases continue to rise in the near future as this variant is so transmissible, and can infect fully vaccinated people. Hopefully with local vaccination levels being much higher here than in other parts of the country, we can get by with showing proof of vaccination, and everyone being required to wear a mask as an added layer of protection."
Sorry to hear that. Glad to hear you made it through okay.
#56Delta Variant and Broadway
Posted: 7/19/21 at 4:18pm
I absolutely agree with you about TC. He has gone on and on about whether we have all the negative facts concerning the dangers of the vaccine. He never talks about how many people are alive because of the vaccine. I bet he has been vaccinated and is just trying to appeal to the right. But it's also a high percentage of minorities who haven't been vaccinated. There is way too much misinformation.
#57Delta Variant and Broadway
Posted: 7/19/21 at 4:57pm
BCfitasafiddle said: "musikman said: "Fully vaxxed with Pfizer. Got a breakthrough case via the delta variant a few weeks ago. It was obviously very frustrating but the symptoms were very manageable. For the most part, it felt like a sinus infection. I’ve had upper respiratory infections or colds where I’ve felt more miserable. Attributing that fully to the effectiveness of the vaccines in preventing serious illness.
We should all be prepared to see cases continue to rise in the near future as this variant is so transmissible, and can infect fully vaccinated people. Hopefully with local vaccination levels being much higher here than in other parts of the country, we can get by with showing proof of vaccination, and everyone being required to wear a mask as an added layer of protection."
Sorry to hear that. Glad to hear you made it through okay."
Thank you. As am I ! Lol
-There's the muddle in the middle. There's the puddle where the poodle did the piddle."
Huss417
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
#58Delta Variant and Broadway
Posted: 7/19/21 at 4:57pm
I'm waiting for a drag queen to be called Delta Variant. :)
"I hope your Fanny is bigger than my Peter."
Mary Martin to Ezio Pinza opening night of Fanny.
#59Delta Variant and Broadway
Posted: 7/19/21 at 5:12pm
I think a vaccine requirement and/or mask requirement is possible for the audience. Other than that, I don't see anything changing.
leefowler
Broadway Star Joined: 7/13/04
#60Delta Variant and Broadway
Posted: 7/19/21 at 5:22pm
Frankly, I don't see why West End theater ever attempted to restart, if a single case of Covid in the cast could close down a show for a week. If Broadway is going to return, we'll have to have a different approach.
Behind the fake tinsel of Broadway is real tinsel.
#61Delta Variant and Broadway
Posted: 7/19/21 at 5:39pm^Again, as stated numerous times, Broadway DOES have a different approach since laws/rules surrounding these kinds of circumstances are different here than they are in the UK.
#62Delta Variant and Broadway
Posted: 7/19/21 at 6:38pm
If you're vaccinated, it doesn't matter if you have a vaccine passport, it doesn't matter if you have a mask, it doesn't matter if the vaccinated people are like the living dead. You are safe. And if, and in the unlikely event you do get a slight case, you are even more safe. There is absolutely no reason to not open Broadway Theatres.
VintageSnarker
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/30/15
#63Delta Variant and Broadway
Posted: 7/19/21 at 7:22pm
My worry is that the CDC is not tracking breakthrough cases so we don't have a good sense of how safe people are who have been vaccinated. Requiring masks and proof of vaccination is fine as long as the pace of vaccination/booster shots outpaces the risk of spreading the current covid variant.
For now, I'm still planning to see the shows at the top of my list but I'm definitely more selective and I do still feel it's too risky to be going out all the time. (For instance, I'm definitely not renewing concert subscriptions and I don't know if I'm going back to the Met for more than one or two shows). I don't think we've reached safety so much as acceptable risk.
BroadwayRox3588
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/5/16
#64Delta Variant and Broadway
Posted: 7/19/21 at 7:34pm
This tweet from Zach Adkins pretty much says it all. We absolutely must reopen in the fall.
https://twitter.com/zachmadkins/status/1417256773883416581
#65Delta Variant and Broadway
Posted: 7/19/21 at 7:42pm
dented146 said: "There is absolutely no reason to not open Broadway Theatres."
There is absolutely one reason to not open Broadway Theatres: Delta Variant.
Non sibi sed patriae
#66Delta Variant and Broadway
Posted: 7/19/21 at 8:04pm
I couldn't disagree with you more. Would you not go into a theatre in the winter because a number of people might have colds? Should your fear of getting a mild illness keep you away. I can understand if you are caring for someone at risk. But 99.9% of all hospital cases right now are unvaccinated folks.
#67Delta Variant and Broadway
Posted: 7/20/21 at 12:06am
dented146 said: "But 99.9% of all hospital cases right now are unvaccinated folks."
Ding, ding, ding! The Delta variant is worrisome…for the unvaccinated. If you’re vaccinated in the US, you are largely safe. That’s why people have been shouting from the rooftops for months to just shut up and get it. We shouldn’t close down Broadway again because a bunch of losers wanted to risk their own lives by not getting it.
The vaccine was not a, “you’re never going to be in contact with the virus” shot. It is a, “you can still get it, and be fine” shot. I have friends who are experiencing it right now. One has symptoms of a very mild cold, and the other didn’t know until they had a mandatory Covid test for work.
I am big. It’s the REVIVALS that got small.
PipingHotPiccolo
Broadway Star Joined: 3/27/19
#68Delta Variant and Broadway
Posted: 7/20/21 at 1:46am
pro tip: whenever you see headlines/posts/whatever about Covid spikes or breakouts or rising numbers just scroll for the part where they say what % of those impacted (ie with immobilizing, life threatening, hospital-requiring symptoms) are vaccinated. As soon as I see that its 1% and usually less, i move on.
Theres a population of people who refuse to wear the (free) safety goggles we've been provided and thats problematic but so long as only THEY are the ones at risk (and that could change), im fine enjoying my life until they figure their stuff out.
#69Delta Variant and Broadway
Posted: 7/20/21 at 2:33am
dented146 said: "I couldn't disagree with you more. Would you not go into a theatre in the winter because a number of people might have colds? Should your fear of getting a mild illness keep you away. I can understand if you are caring for someone at risk. But 99.9% of all hospital cases right now are unvaccinated folks.
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I think the key words in your comment are "right now". As the Delta variant spreads, and as predicted, could mutate and get stronger, that could all change. And the way cases, and breakthrough cases, have risen this past week, that could be happening right now. This is not the common seasonal cold or flu.
Just give the world Love.
7thbighero
Stand-by Joined: 11/9/15
#70Delta Variant and Broadway
Posted: 7/20/21 at 7:09am
Couple of things
1) yes, Covid will mutate. That was always a factor long before we had vaccines. Covid isn’t going anywhere. It’s here to stay, but that doesn’t mean it will dominate our lives forever.
2) I’ll feel better about Broadway when New York State reaches the 70% threshold. Do I want it higher? Yes, but I think by then we’ll see the dent it will make against cases. California is having a wave but that’s with roughly 63% completing vaccination, and the UK has just surpassed 50% of their population with both.
3) Productions need to require vaccinations or negative tests for admittance.
4) I imagine for the most part, not all, but mostly, the kinds of people who see broadway shows, let alone those who travel out of state for them, are the types who are anti vaxx or think Covid is a hoax (again, some outliers but overall)
5) What this will mean for longtime shows I don’t even want to know. I can think of a few I’m worried about surviving.
Ultimately, we shall see. I feel better than not about reopening, I’ll be there the end of September and can’t wait to celebrate.
7thbighero
Stand-by Joined: 11/9/15
#71Delta Variant and Broadway
Posted: 7/20/21 at 7:09am
Couple of things
1) yes, Covid will mutate. That was always a factor long before we had vaccines. Covid isn’t going anywhere. It’s here to stay, but that doesn’t mean it will dominate our lives forever.
2) I’ll feel better about Broadway when New York State reaches the 70% threshold. Do I want it higher? Yes, but I think by then we’ll see the dent it will make against cases. California is having a wave but that’s with roughly 63% completing vaccination, and the UK has just surpassed 50% of their population with both.
3) Productions need to require vaccinations or negative tests for admittance.
4) I imagine for the most part, not all, but mostly, the kinds of people who see broadway shows, let alone those who travel out of state for them, are the types who are anti vaxx or think Covid is a hoax (again, some outliers but overall)
5) What this will mean for longtime shows I don’t even want to know. I can think of a few I’m worried about surviving.
Ultimately, we shall see. I feel better than not about reopening, I’ll be there the end of September and can’t wait to celebrate.
iluvtheatertrash
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/9/04
#72Delta Variant and Broadway
Posted: 7/20/21 at 7:54amAnd what of children? There are child actors who cannot be vaxxed. Many will be in The Music Man. Some will be in The Lion King. I’m sure I’m forgetting some. What of them?
"I know now that theatre saved my life." - Susan Stroman
#73Delta Variant and Broadway
Posted: 7/20/21 at 9:53am
7thbighero said: "2) I’ll feel better about Broadway when New York State reaches the 70% threshold. Do I want it higher? Yes, but I think by then we’ll see the dent it will make against cases.
The vax % for the potential Broadway audience is well above 70%. But that's moot when vax is a prerequisite to entry into the theatre.
4) I imagine for the most part, not all, but mostly, the kinds of people who see broadway shows, let alone those who travel out of state for them, are the types who are anti vaxx or think Covid is a hoax (again, some outliers but overall)
Is this a typo? If not it is totally incorrect. And again it is irrelevant if vax are required.
5) What this will mean for longtime shows I don’t even want to know. I can think of a few I’m worried about surviving.
#74Delta Variant and Broadway
Posted: 7/20/21 at 10:46am
7thbighero said: "Couple of things
1) yes, Covid will mutate. That was always a factor long before we had vaccines. Covid isn’t going anywhere. It’s here to stay, but that doesn’t mean it will dominate our lives forever.
2) I’ll feel better about Broadway when New York State reaches the 70% threshold. Do I want it higher? Yes, but I think by then we’ll see the dent it will make against cases. California is having a wave but that’s with roughly 63% completing vaccination, and the UK has just surpassed 50% of their population with both.
3) Productions need to require vaccinations or negative tests for admittance.
4) I imagine for the most part, not all, but mostly, the kinds of people who see broadway shows, let alone those who travel out of state for them, are the types who are anti vaxx or think Covid is a hoax (again, some outliers but overall)
5) What this will mean for longtime shows I don’t even want to know. I can think of a few I’m worried about surviving.
Ultimately, we shall see. I feel better than not about reopening, I’ll be there the end of September and can’t wait to celebrate."
Wait…. What? So you’re saying that besides New Yorkers it’s the uneducated republican anti vaxxer q anon conspiracists who come to NYC to see Broadway Shows? That…. Is an interesting and highly inaccurate assumption. If anything most of those types of people are going to be avoiding NYC for a long time because of “the crime and violence”… case in point, the thread on the main board about Canadian Mounties and the broadway league needing to save time square from the homeless.
if anything those people come to New York to see the Statue of Liberty and eat at the time square Olive Garden and see maybe one Broadway Show they got on TKTS.
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