BoringBoredBoard40 said: "this is going to flop at the Winter Garden, Metcalf can barely fill the booth right now, granted it is a more notable play and has Nathan Lane but Nathan also hasn't been in a big hit in years and we just had a revival 3 years ago.
this is nothing but Scott Rudin ego on big display"
Notwithstanding, the lucky few of us will be having Christmas in March. :)
A ticket presale for this will begin on January 7 before general public onsale January 9.
Mantello/Lane/Metcalf...are you ****ing kidding me?!?
While this is wayyyy too soon for a revival, I'll be damned if I miss this cast and director! Lane's The Iceman Cometh was a remarkable feat, as was his Roy Cohen. I had thought, since seeing him at the Royal Court, that Lithgow got the Tony locked up once he hit Broadway (and I still believe that) but he has some real competition now. And Laurie, GD national treasure, she is!
Also, when is the last time we had this many play revivals in a single Broadway season?
Compare all that to just 6 new plays.
Now curious of the staging. Feel like Joe tends toward less spectacle / big but this such a larger space. Either way I’m in.
Play Esq. said: "Lane's The Iceman Cometh was a remarkable feat"
What an amazing time at the theatre. It was like five hours long from what I remember.
In a vacuum this sounds great, but the combination of Death of a Salesman having just been on Broadway and not particularly wanting to support Scott Rudin, this is a pass for me.
This should have moved to a smaller theater and let Mamma Mia run well into Summer 2026.
ACL2006 said: "This should have moved to a smaller theater and let Mamma Mia run well into Summer 2026."
Reverse it. Stick Mamma Mia in the Jones. That flaccid little tour set should fit right in and they can command even higher prices. Lord knows that theatre needs a hit.
That show already has a whole tour lined up for the rest of the year with that set.
ACL2006 said: "This should have moved to a smaller theater and let Mamma Mia run well into Summer 2026."
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Laury metchalf literally only has time to run across time Sq to McDonald's and back in between the 2 productions
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rg7759 said: "Laury metchalf literally only has time to run across time Sq to McDonald's and back in between the 2 productions"
I just don't see her eating there.
Question, and I ask this with the notion it may get messy:
Does anyone care about Scott Rudin being a producer? The Reddit/TikTok theatre influencers are up in arms again about his past behaviors and are on their crusade to boycott the production because of his involvement. (Edit: Personally I do not care that he’s back as a producer)
At this point, I feel like we can acknowledge That he still sucks as a person, though likely less now, but he also holds the money that gets shows produced. For example, any other producer probably would’ve long pulled the plug on Little Bear Ridge Road, but his and Diller’s money help it stay open (although the running cost is likely low).
I also think that this DEATH revival might end up making profits that Rudin would use to fund the next small play or playwright looking for its Broadway break.
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quizking101 said: "I also think that this DEATH revival might end up making profits that Rudin would use to fund the next small play or playwright looking for its Broadway break."
Right, because his track record points to that so far...
Scott Rudin has perfect taste. I hope he has grown and changed as a person. If not, I do think we will hear about it and people will not be as forgiving. If you can't get over his past behavior, don't see his productions.
I will not be missing any.
inception said: "That show already has a whole tour lined up for the rest of the year with that set.
ACL2006 said: "This should have moved to a smaller theater and let Mamma Mia run well into Summer 2026."
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They would just recast for the Broadway extension. March-August with a new cast.
quizking101 said: "Question, and I ask this with the notion it may get messy:
Does anyone care about Scott Rudin being a producer?The Reddit/TikTok theatre influencers are up in arms again about his past behaviors and are on their crusade to boycott the production because of his involvement.
At this point, I feel like we can acknowledge That he still sucks as a person, though likely less now, but he also holds the money that gets shows produced. For example, any other producer probably would’ve long pulled the plug on Little Bear Ridge Road, but his and Diller’s money help it stay open (although the running cost is likely low).
I also think that this DEATH revival might end up making profits that Rudin would use to fund the next small play or playwright looking for its Broadway break."
That was pretty much his producing model - big tentpole productions (like Hello Dolly) that allowed him to produce smaller, more prestige plays (like A Doll's House Pt 2).
Greg Nobile / Seaview have more or less copied or built on that model, though have yet to demonstrate aptitude at developing new pieces and they seem out of their depth entirely when it comes to musicals.
Belief in Rudin's producing acumen and indispensability to Broadway seem deeply held among many, but I think that's overblown nostalgia. That NYTimes profile of him from earlier this year just suggested to me his own ego is as large as ever, but he's not actually offering anything new to Broadway- he throws some thinly-veiled shade at folks like Nobile for relying on star casting, but in reality they're just continuing down the path Rudin forged and is continuing down himself.
And of course, he has billionaire Barry Diller at his side. I suspect many in the industry will swallow any reservations they have about Rudin if the money rolls in.
Kad said: "quizking101 said: "Question, and I ask this with the notion it may get messy:
And of course, he has billionaire Barry Diller at his side. I suspect many in the industry will swallow any reservations they have about Rudin if the money rolls in."
Please keep the money rolling in. Rudin's taste has been sorely missed in the last few years.
When those Winter Garden rumors began I wondered if maybe they had a secret weapon as Biff. Some hot overqualified talent like Jacob Elordi or this season’s equivalent of Kit Connor.
But no, instead it’s just insane decisions by Scott Rudin and Bob Wankel.
They couldn't be any worse than the Biff in the Pierce production. We didn't much care for Pierce or direction either. This will be a nice cleanser.
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Falsettolands said: "DaveyG said: "Falsettolands said: "Metcalf will undoubtedly receive two nominations this season. Has anyone ever been nominated twice in the same season in the SAME acting category? (Yes, I know others have been nominated twice in the same season in DIFFERENT categories)"
Metcalf will likely be eligible in the Featured category for Salesman. That's where Linda Emond was nominated in 2012 and Elizabeth Franz won in 1999."
This doesn’t answer my question but I appreciate the context."
Your question is obviously based off your incorrect assumption. How about accepting that instead of acting out the boomer playbook
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Mantello, Lane, Metcalf.
I wouldn't miss it, but the choice of theater and a play so recently revived does feel a bit off.
To be fair it might be interesting to know even as you said it's likely irrelevant to this particular case...
I'm probably gonna get called out about this, but I need to say this. As much as I dislike discouraging people from seeing a show, I cannot, for the life of me, support any show produced by Scott Rudin. The fact that people on here are excited about this production seems to overlook the fact that, again, this is a RUDIN PRODUCTION! To support this is supporting Rudin. Therefore, seeming to forget his decades of horrible behavior. I would rethink purchasing a ticket. Again, anyone who wants to come after me for saying this, fine. However, remember who you are supporting again.
Sutton Ross said: "Wendell Pierce was brilliant in the role only 3 years ago so it's interesting it's coming back so quickly."
Rudin probably doesn't care. After all, he did bring The Glass Menagerie back to Broadway with Sally Field three years after the previous revival with Cherry Jones.
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