Phylicia Rashad on Cosby's Release- Page 4

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 7/4/21 at 1:30am

Never have idols!

https://twitter.com/PrettyMill1/status/1411338674961256457

[PipingHotPiccolo]

Posted: 7/4/21 at 1:58am

HogansHero said: "David10086 said: "I’m more interested in the miscarriage of justice which freed Cosby this week than I am in Rashads wacky response."

Regarding the court action freeing him, it was not a miscarriage of justice, as regrettable as it was that the court had to let a monster free, but that's the way our legal system works and I would think that, were you on the other side of the bar, you'd want the court to do exactly what it did here: enforce the contract that the prosecutor entered into. If you want to blame someone for what transpired, focus on the idiotic Bruce Castor, the prosecutor."

100% correct. The Court did the exactly right thing. I've seen alot of people say it was a miscarriage of justice- and in terms of Cosby's release, of course it was- but it was actually a decision that bolsters our system's (elusive) commitment to protecting the innocent. 

[RippedMan]

Posted: 7/4/21 at 2:00am

OOF, that got messy. 

Let's just move on. She's a great actress - saw her on August Osage. Twitter is the death of society. 

Think before you post. 

[phantom39]

Posted: 7/4/21 at 2:45am

Looks like she deleted the original tweet... Is it available anywhere?

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 7/4/21 at 9:59am

Rashad doing major damage control.  Everything lives on forever on the Internet so deleting things doesn’t make them disappear.  

https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/phylicia-rashad-howard-letter-apology-1235011164/

 

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 7/4/21 at 10:09am

And Marjorie Taylor Greene went to a Holocaust museum and apologized. I don’t believe either of their apologies - they both (stupidly) said how they really felt and didn’t think or care about the consequences.

[Dolly80]

Posted: 7/4/21 at 10:50am

Oh man her tweet was so misjudged. It’s bad enough thinking it, but tweeting it?

I hate cancel culture- but her support of him is so troubling.

[fosterfan2]

Posted: 7/4/21 at 11:50am

Jordan Catalano said: "And Marjorie Taylor Greene went to a Holocaust museum and apologized. I don’t believe either of their apologies - they both (stupidly) said how they really felt and didn’t think or care about the consequences."

They're just sorry they got caught. Nothing more,nothing less.

 

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 7/4/21 at 12:39pm

fosterfan2 said: "Jordan Catalano said: "And Marjorie Taylor Greene went to a Holocaust museum and apologized. I don’t believe either of their apologies - they both (stupidly) said how they really felt and didn’t think or care about the consequences."

They're just sorry they got caught. Nothing more,nothing less.

Ms. Rashad wasn’t “caught” she herself put her ish out there for the world to read. 

 

 

[SouthernCakes]

Posted: 7/4/21 at 1:16pm

Same with Greene. She tweeted it.

They both willing knew what they were doing.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 7/4/21 at 4:00pm

^ Exactly.

[KKeller6]

Posted: 7/4/21 at 4:44pm

She's just a normal person in the entertainment business who doesn't care. I'm going to do a public service in these hard times and save everyone here a lot of time and money. Here is Meryl Streep, Martin Scorcese, Jack Nicholson and a host of others giving convicted child rapist Roman Polanski a standing ovation while Harrison Ford happily accepts the award for the fugitive .

https://youtu.be/PXnNOBj26lk

Think of all the money we'll all save not supporting any of these people or their projects. Or others who work with them and are complicit. You're welcome.

[JayElle]

Posted: 7/5/21 at 12:53pm

JDonaghy4 said in part: "100% correct. The Court did the exactly right thing. I've seen alot of people say it was a miscarriage of justice- and in terms of Cosby's release, of course it was- but it was actually a decision that bolsters our system's (elusive) commitment to protecting the innocent."

Cosby was not innocent. "Notably, during his depositions, Cosby confessed that, in the past, he had provided Quaaludes, not Benadryl, to other women with whom he wanted to have sexual intercourse." pg15, PA Supreme Ct decision.

"For the reasons detailed below, we hold that, when a prosecutor makes an unconditional promise of non-prosecution, and when the defendant relies upon that guarantee to the detriment of his constitutional right not to testify, the principle of fundamental fairness that undergirds due process of law in our criminal justice system demands that the promise be enforced." PA decision, pg52

Rashad's statement is not surprising considering her 4 decade friendship and work relationship with him. Cosby was a Philadelphia area icon for decades, with a close connection to Temple Univ. Castor's bias just about jumps off the page in his press release which he used as a general release of prosecution. None of this would've happened if he followed the statutory requirement to get a formal agreement signed by all parties and approved by a judge.  

Instead the incompetent Castor declared himself a "sovereign of the commonwealth" as if he was nobility and issued the press release. The PA court reversed the conviction based on detrimental reliance. Cosby  relied on the release to his detriment when he waived his 5th Amend privilege.

 Castor's competence wasn't much better at his ludicrous attempt tp defend Cheeto tRUMP in his 2nd impeachment.

And then there's Cosby on Larry King Live/CNN admitting he spiced women's drinks. At least he had a few years in prison. He's planning a comedy tour. Hope it's for prisoners instead of the public. 

https://www.pacourts.us/Storage/media/pdfs/20210630/163038-june302021opinionwecht.pdf

https://thesource.com/2015/07/11/that-time-bill-cosby-detailed-how-to-drug-a-woman-on-cnn/

 

[Islander_fan]

Posted: 7/5/21 at 1:46pm

It should be noted that Cosby has had a history of messed up and warped view when it came to women.

I remember watching an interview with Kennan Thompson on Seth Myers. It was around the time that allegations against Cosby started to come out. Myers asked him about it because, at the time, Thompson had been plying Cosby for awhile on SNL.

Thompson talked about how he felt proud of his work on Cosby’s Fat Albert movie. But, there was one thing that he was told by Cosby that made him do a double take. This is a quote from Thompson I found in an article that discusses the interview after it had occurred.

And one of them was this story that he told me where he was like ‘You know, life is good in the movies but you just be ready because when this movie comes out you’re gonna need two [penises] because women are gonna be all over you.’ “

[JBroadway]

Posted: 7/5/21 at 1:52pm

As we discussed earlier in this thread, the notion that Cosby's conviction was literally a "miscarriage of justice" under the eyes of the law is neither here nor there, as far as Rashad's comments are concerned. Rashad was obviously showing support to Cosby himself, not the judicial process. She has shown support for Cosby before. Has she been known to Tweet about other cases of judicial law being breached, for people who aren't her friends? Not to my knowledge. 

Plus, if she had been talking about the judicial process, she should have said so, and would have said so - either in her first tweet, or in any of her follow up statements. She is fully aware that her comments have been interpreted as a support of Cosby, and she's made no attempt to encourage people to interpret them any other way.

Updated On: 7/5/21 at 01:52 PM

[joevitus]

Posted: 7/5/21 at 2:28pm

I mean, she pretty much owes her fame and success to him. She obviously had a career before The Cosby Show. But it made her. And that lead to probably every good thing that has happened since, including meeting her husband. And when Cosby did a follow up show, he insisted she be his co-star. It isn't at all surprising this is a more tangled issue for her than others. I don't mean "tangled" as in "how should I feel about this?" I doubt she wrestles with it. I mean, I think it is a very different thing for Rashad to cut him off voice repugnance than for any of us--who have zero connection to him--and a very different thing for her to show him support when she thinks he needs it as he gave her the support she needed at a crucial point in her career.

I can't see why anyone cares that Rashad supports him or that she tweets supportive comments. It's literally one person in a sea of people who have condemned him. It's meaningless. Did any of her tweets keep him from being arrested? Did any of them actually help free him? It's a personal opinion and nothing more.

One could say she should keep her personal opinions to herself, or at least the controversial ones, but the whole point of social platforms like Twitter is that they make the private public, that they give access to the inner mind of whomever one follows. It's why people subscribe to the Twitter accounts of famous people in the first place. One could as easily say, if you don't want to hear offensive posts, don't subscribe (or read about) the Twitter account of someone you know is going to infuriate you.

We're never going to have a world where no one we like (especially those we like at a distance) never post something that shocks or offends us. The human race will never be that identical in nature (over all, probably a good thing). One person tweeted support for Bill Cosby. Meh. Again, considering what he did for her at a crucial junction in her life, it isn't that surprising. And it effects absolutely nothing, in terms of Cosby's imprisonment or release.

[woeisme3]

Posted: 7/5/21 at 3:23pm

Regardless of how it affects the world, I think people are allowed to be upset someone so esteemed would defend an actual rapist?

And her ignorance to the topic certainly will affect students at Howard, especially knowing how conducive the college environment is to sexual misconduct. Ugly all around.

[JayElle]

Posted: 7/5/21 at 3:35pm

JBroadway said, in part: "As we discussed earlier in this thread, the notion that Cosby's conviction was literally a "miscarriage of justice" under the eyes of the law is neither here nor there, as far as Rashad's comments are concerned. Rashad was obviously showing support to Cosby himself, not the judicial process. She has shown support for Cosby before."

Rashad had his back throughout the judicial event. Some thread folks commented he was "innocent" or that he suffered a contractual breach.  I responded to that. Cosby was neither innocent nor the victim of a contractual breach as there was no contract.  The court's ruling was procedural related and didn't address his guilt or innocence.   Castor didn't want to touch the Cosby case. He admitted he didn't handle other cases like that and lower courts said he contradicted himself as to his intent not to prosecute.

I'm not surprised she supported Cosby. Some of his other cast members didn't believe him, but kept their mouth shut. Whether she should perform in NYC theater is left to the powers that be I presume.

 

 

[JayElle]

Posted: 7/5/21 at 3:47pm

Islander_fan said: "It should be noted that Cosby has had a history of messed up and warped view when it came to women......"

Absolutely.  That's why I included his CNN/Larry King Live admission of spiking drinks.  But like Weinstein and Rudin, they get away with it because of their power and connections. Cosby's fall provided the DA Vance the guts to go for Weinstein.  

Rashad sees her friend.  I vaguely remember her years ago criticizing the women for not reporting it. Even if she admitted he committed these crimes, I'm guessing she'd forgive/forgave him.  Even more disturbing is that Cosby still believes his drugging and sexual contact with an unconscious woman was okay. I hope they never let him near a funeral home's corpses.

 

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 7/5/21 at 4:59pm

JayElle said: "Even more disturbing is that Cosby still believes his drugging and sexual contact with an unconscious woman was okay. I hope they never let him near a funeral home's corpses."

 

What a vulgar, sick comment.  There's something wrong with you.

 

[Islander_fan]

Posted: 7/5/21 at 5:45pm

Highland Guy said: "JayElle said: "Even more disturbing is that Cosby still believes his drugging and sexual contact with an unconscious woman was okay. I hope they never let him near a funeral home's corpses."



What a vulgar, sick comment. There's something wrong with you.

"

Ah come off it. I mean, what’s wrong with a good necrophilia joke every now and again. 😁

[JayElle]

Posted: 7/5/21 at 7:39pm

Yes, Islander-Fan, some can't take a joke. Sorry Highland Guy if you were offended, but you should be offended by Cosby's sexually deviant behavior that should've netted him a life sentence. If it wasn't for his age, I wouldn't trust him on the streets or near the farm animals.

Read the court ruling. It's frightening with details the media wouldn't print. Dozens of women claimed he drugged and sexually assaulted them while UNCONSCIOUS. Women testified they awoke w/his penis in their mouth, anal penetration discovered by bleeding/pain upon wakening, waking totally nude with vaginal pain, semen on their body, and more. Rashad probably would not have tweeted her elation at his freedom if she had read it.

He admitted on CNN how he'd spike a woman's drink. Cosby steadfastly maintained his innocence claiming female consent, something impossible to give unconscious. His repetitive deviant behavior is why the various courts permitted those women to testify under the "motive, opportunity, intent, preparation, plan" rule.

What is sick? Him doing this to woman after woman, using his power to silence them, and saved by a district attorney unwilling to prosecute. If he would rape an unconscious woman that he knocked out, what else would he do? Rashad's comment was stupid. Sorry, but Cosby's deviant behavior should outrage people.

[PipingHotPiccolo]

Posted: 7/5/21 at 7:53pm

JayElle said: ". Some thread folks commented he was "innocent" or that he suffereda contractual breach. I responded to that. .

"

You were responding to me and i sure as hell did not say or suggest Cosby is innocent. Quite the opposite. His guilty is not really in question. That doesnt mean the decision to free him was wrong. The system is (meant to be) built on ensuring guilty people go free before locking up the innocent. 

I honestly don't know who you are arguing with here, so maybe I missed the person who backed Cosby on the merits (as opposed to Michael Jackson, whose victims were roundly discounted and insulted by many on these boards) .But since you quoted me, and seem to think I was saying Cosby was freed because he is guilty, I actually said the precise opposite.

[joevitus]

Posted: 7/5/21 at 10:35pm

woeisme3 said: "Regardless of how it affects the world, I think people are allowed to be upset someone so esteemed would defend an actual rapist?

And her ignorance to the topic certainly will affect students at Howard, especially knowing how conducive the college environment is to sexual misconduct. Ugly all around."

Never said anything about not allowing anyone anything. I think pre-internet hive mind, it would not have shocked nor even surprised many to find out that someone closely connected to a person who committed heinous acts did not necessarily have the same estimation of the person that we as strangers had. Indeed, my point is that people _are_ allowed to have the responses they have--that would include Rashad. It was more specifically my point that since Rashad doesn't invalidate or threaten our own opinion, her tweets just don't matter. Updated On: 7/5/21 at 10:35 PM

[HogansHero]

Posted: 7/5/21 at 10:52pm

joevitus said: "woeisme3 said: "Regardless of how it affects the world, I think people are allowed to be upset someone so esteemed would defend an actual rapist?
...
 my point is that people _are_ allowed to have the responses they have--that would include Rashad. It was more specifically my point that since Rashad doesn't invalidate or threaten our own opinion, her tweets just don't matter."

I think both of you are missing the forest for the trees. It's not about our feelings. It is about the fact that she is the dean of the school and as such the would be arbiter of any complaint that, as an example, a professor sexually assaulted a student. If you were a woman who had been raped by your professor, would you want the person who wrote what Rashad wrote on twitter to be the person responsible for protecting you? I am not a student or a woman but I sure as hell wouldn't.