ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "This is an issue with the administration committee or the production's petitioning, not the nominators. We knew this before today.Remember when the PIPPIN revival was only deemed eligible for Chet Walker and not Gipsy Snyder (the circus elements)?"
didn't it happen back in the day with West Side Story, not nominating Peter Gennaro who choreographed much of the Sharks' stuff and Jerome Robbins was the only winner?
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ATerrifyingAndImposingFigure said: "VintageSnarker said: "I can't predict Actor in a Featured Role in a Musical either."
That's pretty easy, Matt Doyle is the clear frontrunner and in the chance of an upset, it would be John-Andrew Morrison."
That assumes we live in a logical world and after these nominations, I don't know anymore. For what it's worth, I was not impressed by his past performances, but I think A.J. Shively finally found a way to shine in the kind of juvenile (i.e. ingenue counterpart) role we don't really see much of anymore. The nomination was a surprise but I thought he was really good. Now, if Chilina had been nominated, that would have been insane.
ATerrifyingAndImposingFigure said: "VintageSnarker said: "I can't predict Actor in a Featured Role in a Musical either."
That's pretty easy, Matt Doyle is the clear frontrunner and in the chance of an upset, it would be John-Andrew Morrison."
I agree Doyle is the frontrunner but I still think this category is wide open. Historically speaking, they tend to reward performances in new musicals in this category (only 3 of the last 16 winners have been from revivals) and that includes some quasi-upsets in recent years of actors from new shows beating favored actors in revivals (Ariel Stachel over Norbert Leo Butz, Gabriel Ebert over Terrance Mann, Michael McGrath over Michael Cerveris). So I can easily see either Morrison or Shively taking this.
forfivemoreminutes said: "Very disappointed that none of the Caroline, or Change featured actresses got nominated - each of them gave outstanding performances."
Well, now I'm sad. Hopefully they'll all get other opportunities but they did great work, especially considering the weaker nominations in that category.
everythingtaboo said: "I'm honestly just flummoxed that MJ and Paradise Square, two shows that got such middling reviews, could be leading the pack."
In all but spectacularly good years, the Tony nominative have always included embarrassing nominees in its zeal to pad the categories. This year has more than its share, as you illustrated. For example, did Susan Lori Parks get even one good review for her book to MJ? If she did, I missed it / them. In a better season for new musicals, would we see three best musical nominees that all represent led padding? It is a business and this season is particularly challenged by the Covid factor, so they are trying harder than ever to help business. A time has proven, it won’t really work: and diminishes the meaning of a Tony nomination.
The best thing to do is to focus on the richly deserved nominations and the likelihood that most / all winners will deserve their awards (at least for a majority of regular theatre goers).
Broadway61004 said: "Historically speaking, they tend to reward performances in new musicals in this category (only 3 of the last 16 winners have been from revivals)."
That's an interesting stat/pattern, though I tend to be kind of wary/suspicious of any award stats that are only true of one gender over another (the stats are much more even distributed in Featured Actress). After all, the breakdown of actor vs. actress is effectively random and arbitrary based on what roles happen to crop up that season - what could possibly be the causality that makes male actors in revivals more awards-friendly vs. female actors in revivals? Unless it just happens to be that older shows tend not to have as many awards-friendly supporting roles for men as they do for women, which might be true, but would require its own analysis.
But the irony of that, of course, is that this year's projected winner for Featured Actor is playing a role written for a woman. So if the stat you're referencing is only caused by the way older shows were written, then Doyle is all the less likely to be hindered by the stat you're referencing.
Jarethan said: "everythingtaboo said: " For example, did Susan Lori Parks get even one good review for her book to MJ? If she did, I missed it / them."
That would be highly impressive if Susan Lori Parks got good reviews for Lynn Nottage's book!
All kidding aside, though, the reviews weren't awful for the book, which when you're going against Flying Over Sunset, Doubtfire, Diana, etc. the bar for a nomination isn't too high. I'm a little surprised it got in over Six, but then again, she has the name recognition and Six still has the "it's just a concert" stigma.
JBroadway said: "Broadway61004 said: "Historically speaking, they tend to reward performances in new musicals in this category (only 3 of the last 16 winners have been from revivals)."
That's an interesting stat/pattern, though I tend to be kind of wary/suspicious of any award stats that are only true of one gender over another (the stats are much more even distributed in Featured Actress). After all, the breakdown of actor vs. actress is effectively random and arbitrary based on what roles happen to crop up that season - what could possibly be the causality that makes male actors in revivals more awards-friendly vs. female actors in revivals? Unless it just happens to be that older shows tend not to have as many awards-friendly supporting roles for men as they do for women, which might be true, but would require its own analysis.
But the irony of that, of course, is that this year's projected winner for Featured Actor is playing a role written for a woman. So if the stat you're referencing is only caused by the way older shows were written, then Doyle is all the more likely to win."
Definitely, I still agree this will likely go to Doyle. Just saying based on recent history, I think it's a little less of a sure thing than some folks are predicting (will also be interesting to see if Spivey ends up not winning Actor, would this be the category to reward the Strange Loop performers by giving it to Morrison? Could be interesting.)
I thought people were raving about Jane Lynch and thought she was a shoe-in. Wonder what happened there.
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That featured actor in a musical category is a tough one. I think Doyle is the favorite, but the more I think about it, the more I want JAM to win. He has worked on this show so hard and for so long and does such incredible work in this show.
ashley0139 said: "I thought people were raving about Jane Lynch and thought she was a shoe-in. Wonder what happened there."
This category has always been in flux. What's clear is that the Tonys simply did not like this production of FUNNY GIRL. LuPone was really the only lock here. Shoshana Bean & Jeannette Bayardelle in particular were extremely unexpected.
i'm really taken aback by lenk's and fisburne's omissions.
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ashley0139 said: "I thought people were raving about Jane Lynch and thought she was a shoe-in. Wonder what happened there."
Well I know there was criticism about her not seeming Jewish at all. But I think the contention around Beanie just really hurt this overall production.
binau said: "RememberTheDay said: "Luminaire2 said: "OH MY GOD SHOSHANA!!
I am so proud of her!"
SAME SAME SAME. So well deserved. I think either her or Simard will walk away with it."
There is no way this award is going to anyone except Patti LuPone!"
100%, but I am just so happy Shoshana is among them. To have essentially given up on Broadway only until recently, and to come back and get a nom on your first original show back….
Amazing. Get her in a big new musical, she can win in the future.
Luminaire2 said: "100%, but I am just so happy Shoshana is among them. To have essentially given up on Broadway only until recently, and to come back and get a nom on your first original show back….
Amazing. Get her in a big new musical, she can win in the future."
Eden is fantastic in Lempicka, but before she came into the role it was Shoshana's and THAT would have been a star making moment for her. If you haven't heard her Woman Is....YouTube it now.
With all the unexpected Paradise Square love, I think Kalukango has a real chance at winning this thing. She's easily the highlight of the show and it would be the best way to recognize the show. It's definitely between her and Clarke.
I think a more sensible way to look at the numbers of nominations for Paradise Square or MJ is not necessarily enthusiasm for those shows, but a lack of enthusiasm for the alternatives. I think this season is weaker than people appreciate.
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12 hours later, I just realized that SKIN OF OUR TEETH and DANA H did not get nominated for Best Revival and Best Play respectively. All day I thought they were because each got Directing, Acting, and Design noms and I can never keep all the nominees straight on day 1.