BenElliott said: "phan24 said: "The information is accurate, sorry that I can't provide any sources since it's not public yet but wanted to inform the most dedicated people here. I guess take it with a grain of salt until it comes out?"
You say this literally everytime.
Aren't we still waiting on that Sunday in the Park film that you claim was greenlit like 3 years ago?
Stop spreading false information as a joke."
This didn't age well...saddened for everyone in the Broadway community who will suffer, and hope by now it's clear I was spreading the word as soon as I heard it
Regarding PLAZA SUITE -- if the theaters reopen, would imagine performances after April 13 would go on.
I wonder what happens to people who buy tickets through StubHub type service? Can a purchaser just get a refund of the face value, or will StubHub guarantee the amount of the full ticket?
For those of you lamenting THE INHERITENCE closing, it's coming to the Geffen in LA next season.
For those wondering why touring shows aren’t being cancelled it makes sense for them to go on as of right now for me. This coming week Anastasia is set to play for the week here in Louisville, KY. As of right now there are only about 10 confirmed cases in the state and only 2 in the city of Louisville, no fatalities so far. I’m not saying these numbers won’t rise, god knows they will, but our numbers aren’t as severe as those in NYC. I think we are fine for at least another week in terms of events shuddering. I imagine a lot of touring performances WILL be cancelled in bigger cities, but as for smaller less major markets the numbers aren’t staggering enough to stop anything... yet.
Cape Twirl of Doom said: "AlanB3 said: "If often is not nearly bad as expected precisely because of actions taken now that many are questioning.
Major preventative action is most effective when taken early, not finally in reaction to when everyone is on board that it is the right thing to do.
It's the hard part of our crazy human brain and behavior ... doing the right thing now when it may not seem completely necessary because it will be too late to do so when it finally looks that way."
Yes, I am reminded of the whole Y2K thing. When nothing happened after that date and all computers didn't stop working, people were all annoyed with all of the freakout that happened prior without actually realizing that, No it's precisely because of everything that was prepared ahead of time that nothing bad happened!!"
This is NOTHING like Y2K. Because most firms knew their software could not handle the century change, they all invested the necessary money (extraordinary amounts for large organizations) o ensure they would be ready. Knowing the risk years in advance forced the governments / corporations / et al to invest their available funs in necessary remediation, oftentimes instead of making truly new investments. Essentially, the Y2K investment represented the most expensive 'replacing the roof' expenditure in history.
While I still fault the current administration, i.e., the idiot squad, in particular for the fact that we are so ill-prepared for any real level of testing and treatment (as contrasted against, say, South Korea), there was little to no lead time dealing with this virus, when you get down to it. It makes me realize that, while you never know what is going tovsurface next, we need to be more focused on being better prepared to deal with the unknown.
Yes, it is like Y2K specifically in the way that some people are scoffing at the extreme measures taken, and if the measures are successful they will say, "See? You did that all over nothing."
I'm scheduled to come to New York April 22 with tickets purchased to a lot of shows. I'm sadly reconsidering. The corona virus is not going to disappear on April 13. The greater good is more important, and I'm sad for all the people in theatre whose jobs and creative talents are affected. A show I was working on in the Los Angeles area was cancelled yesterday leaving me out of a job. We have to be safe, waitand see how this all works out.
Wish for Encores - if you can't perform for an audience, please record the score!
WhoCouldBeBlue said: "Maybe it’s time for Lin Manuel to open his wallet and help Broadway, being that he’s made millions the past few years off of it."
gleek4114 said: "For those wondering why touring shows aren’t being cancelled it makes sense for them to go on as of right now for me. This coming week Anastasia is set to play for the week here in Louisville, KY. As of right now there are only about 10 confirmed cases in the state and only 2 in the city of Louisville, no fatalities so far. I’m not saying these numbers won’t rise, god knows they will, but our numbers aren’t as severe as those in NYC. I think we are fine for at least another week in terms of events shuddering. I imagine a lot of touring performances WILL be cancelled in bigger cities, but as for smaller less major markets the numbers aren’t staggering enough to stop anything... yet."
You don't wait to shutter events until the # of people ill demands it. The primary reason sports leagues, Broadway, the NCAA, and much more are shutting down is to try and flatten the curve and reduce the number of people spreading or contracting the virus.
Jarethan said: "Cape Twirl of Doom said: "AlanB3 said: "If often is not nearly bad as expected precisely because of actions taken now that many are questioning.
Major preventative action is most effective when taken early, not finally in reaction to when everyone is on board that it is the right thing to do.
It's the hard part of our crazy human brain and behavior ... doing the right thing now when it may not seem completely necessary because it will be too late to do so when it finally looks that way."
Yes, I am reminded of the whole Y2K thing. When nothing happened after that date and all computers didn't stop working, people were all annoyed with all of the freakout that happened prior without actually realizing that, No it's precisely because of everything that was prepared ahead of time that nothing bad happened!!"
This is NOTHING like Y2K. Because most firms knew their software could not handle the century change, they all invested the necessary money (extraordinary amounts for large organizations) o ensure they would be ready. Knowing the risk years in advance forced the governments / corporations / et al to invest their available funs in necessary remediation, oftentimes instead of making truly new investments. Essentially, the Y2K investment represented the most expensive 'replacing the roof' expenditure in history.
While I still fault the current administration, i.e., the idiot squad, in particularfor the fact that we are so ill-prepared for any real level of testing and treatment (as contrasted against, say, South Korea), there was little to no lead time dealing withthis virus, when you get down to it. It makes me realize that, while you never know what is going tovsurface next, we need to be more focused on being better prepared to deal with the unknown.
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You misunderstood what I said. I said if severe preventative measures work, people then say "Well what was all the fuss about!? Why did we need all that prevention!?" when it was only because of those measures that it wasn't worse.
AlanB3 said: "gleek4114 said: "For those wondering why touring shows aren’t being cancelled it makes sense for them to go on as of right now for me. This coming week Anastasia is set to play for the week here in Louisville, KY. As of right now there are only about 10 confirmed cases in the state and only 2 in the city of Louisville, no fatalities so far. I’m not saying these numbers won’t rise, god knows they will, but our numbers aren’t as severe as those in NYC. I think we are fine for at least another week in terms of events shuddering. I imagine a lot of touring performances WILL be cancelled in bigger cities, but as for smaller less major markets the numbers aren’t staggering enough to stop anything... yet."
You don't wait to shutter events until the # of people ill demands it. The primary reason sports leagues, Broadway, the NCAA, and much more are shutting down is to try and flatten the curve and reduce the number of people spreading or contracting the virus."
Cases of COVID-19 climbed by 112 overnight to 328 on Thursday, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo said Thursday at a press briefing and could reach 1000 by next week!
"Anything you do, let it it come from you--then it will be new."
Sunday in the Park with George
Robbie2 said: "AlanB3 said: "gleek4114 said: "For those wondering why touring shows aren’t being cancelled it makes sense for them to go on as of right now for me. This coming week Anastasia is set to play for the week here in Louisville, KY. As of right now there are only about 10 confirmed cases in the state and only 2 in the city of Louisville, no fatalities so far. I’m not saying these numbers won’t rise, god knows they will, but our numbers aren’t as severe as those in NYC. I think we are fine for at least another week in terms of events shuddering. I imagine a lot of touring performances WILL be cancelled in bigger cities, but as for smaller less major markets the numbers aren’t staggering enough to stop anything... yet."
You don't wait to shutter events until the # of people ill demands it. The primary reason sports leagues, Broadway, the NCAA, and much more are shutting down is to try and flatten the curve and reduce the number of people spreading or contracting the virus."
Cases of COVID-19 climbed by 112 overnight to 328 on Thursday, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo said Thursday at a press briefing and could reach 1000 by next week!"
Scarlet Leigh said: "One has to wonder what is a better option for them IF they are given the CHOICE.
Suspend performance for a few weeks, refunding the tickets but saving on operational costs. The pros being total public safety and not spending money on operations but obvious con the the cast and crews will not be getting a paycheck and lose of revenue on 100% of ticket sales in this time.
NOT TO MENTION that this would cause a TOTAL distribution to the season for awards. Shows that would open or start previews in this time frame will risk becoming ineligible for the Tony awards unless exceptions are made to the rules allowing for shows effected in this time frame to still be considered should their opening be delayed beyond the original window of qualification. With Six opening tonight, it COULD end up being the last show to officially qualify under the rules.
OR
Continuing performances and let ticket holders make that choice for themselves while still allowing those not willing to take that risk/can't travel due to restrictions the option of a refund. The pro here is that the cast and crew are still getting paid and they will not be refunding all tickets while the cons here are of course safety but also spending the same operational costs as normal to play to partial or severely discounted houses.
It's a tough call to make and it's possible that the choice will soon be taken from them all together."
i hope that I misread your intention. I love the Tony's as much as anyone, but to include the Tony's as a factor in determining whether to cancel performances or not is about as shallow and unthinking an observation as I have read here. I hope that I am just misreading it.
In dealing with an issue that has to potential to be devastating for many, even mentioning impact on an awards program and impact on contenders as a decision factor is incomprehensible to me.
I have to admit that I am all over the place on this issue. I live in Florida and am 69 years old. I am in very good health for my age. Never smoked, tobacco products at least, but was hospitalized for a week with a bad case of pneumonia 27 years ago, after flying around the world on business in 6 days (Newark-Tokyo-Singapore-London-Newark). I have tickets to 5 productions in the next 2 weeks, expect no refunds and no ability to exchange tickets, based on performance schedules. Despite having to eat (for my wife and I) about $800 in tickets (four of the tickets are at non-profits), I am not considering going. Sunk cost, minimize risk, etc.
Despite this, I am personally in the camp that believes that, when this thing has passed, we are probably going to look back and conclude that the impact on (previously heathy) virus contractors was pretty minimal STATISTICALLY. But, then I say...why take a chance?
Somewhere in this thread, a person mentioned that he lived with his mother who was in bad health (I seem to recall lung-related, but that may not be accurate), but that he was seeing Virginia Woolf that night. My immediate reaction was that that was an incredibly selfish act. I know everyone wants to see Laurie Metcalf as Martha and all that, but FOR ME that is taking a lot of risk to see something that, while a masterpiece, is revived constantly and also has a great movie for a Va. Woolf fix. Not the same same as live, but is it really worth taking the chance of risking his mother's life.
For two decades (1970s and 1980s), I saw virtually every Broadway show that opened, including a number of real stinkers. Then we had a child and and another and then I took a job 500 miles away from NYC. Two toddlers and distance meant that I attended NY theatre much less from 1990 to 1992, and rarely got to the NY theatre from mid-1992 until about 2005, other than on business trips in the latter years. I have often lamented the fact that I missed a lot of great shows and -- although, I may have seen a number of the musicals on tour -- it is not the same thing, plus the vast majority of limited engagement (and not so limited) plays were lost to me. I used to get so frustrated at what I missed but, reflecting back, in the cosmic order of things, life went on. If
I were in close proximity to elderly people, particularly unhealthy ones, I would suck it up for a while (assumption...this one will run its course) and stay home.
Had tickets for shows on 4/3 and 4/4, called Telecharge this afternoon after news of the B'way shutter and was on hold for a little over an hour. Quickly canceled and refunded my tickets. Still such a huge bummer, though I know this was the right call for them to make.
I just feel so awful for the shows just in previews, or about to preview/open. I hope they and other productions can recover quickly. I don't see this being taken care of by 4/13 either. It's going to get much worse before it gets better. Not nearly enough people are being tested, purposefully, to protect the president's ego and keep numbers low. It's scary times.
This caption is taken form the Lincoln Center Theater website:
All ticketholders will automatically receive a refund from their point-of-purchase, which may take 4-6 weeks or 2 billing cycles. No further action is necessary. (Cash buyers must visit the box office when business resumes.)
I'm sure the logistics for arranging all the refunds is a bit overwhelming at the moment.