Jamie Lloyd-helmed EVITA revival to play the London Palladium in 2025- Page 4

[GottaGetAGimmick420]

Posted: 1/29/25 at 6:09pm

ElephantLoveMedley said: "Thank goodness.

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Ariana-DeBose-No-Longer-In-Talks-To-Lead-EVITA-in-London-Due-to-Scheduling-20250129"

That was fast. And given her previous interviews on the subject, she was definitely interested. Wouldn't be surprised if the word on the street actually hurt the bottom line of her negotiations.... 

[GottaGetAGimmick420]

Posted: 1/29/25 at 6:47pm

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 1/29/25 at 6:51pm

EDSOSLO858 said: "Might be too soon after EMILIA PÉREZ, but… Zoe Saldaña?"

Can she actually sing? Now, I haven't seen Emilia Pérez, but from what ive seen nobody actually has to sing. Just talk rhythmically...

[TotallyEffed]

Posted: 1/29/25 at 6:53pm

EDSOSLO858 said: "Might be too soon after EMILIA PÉREZ, but… Zoe Saldaña?"

 

Way too old and needs pipes of steel for this.

 

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 1/29/25 at 7:02pm

Emmy Raver-Lampman

[KevinKlawitter]

Posted: 1/29/25 at 7:04pm

TheatreFan4 said: "EDSOSLO858 said: "Might be too soon after EMILIA PÉREZ, but… Zoe Saldaña?"

Can she actually sing? Now, I haven't seen Emilia Pérez, but from what ive seen nobody actually has to sing. Just talk rhythmically..."

She's definitely singing.

But I don't necessarily think she's Eva Paron material.

[Jeffrey Karasarides]

Posted: 1/29/25 at 7:18pm

binau said: "I must admit I’m beginning to feel a little sorry for DeBose and I hope she can navigate her way through the bumps in her career. Winning an Oscar is amazing achievement and no one can take that from her, but no one wants to peak this soon."

They say that it actually is sometimes better not to win. Which may especially be true for those early in their careers. There have been artists who won Oscars early on, but their careers went downhill shortly thereafter. It's probably one of the reasons why Austin Butler lost for Elvis two years ago as well as why Mikey Madison might not win for Anora this year. Academy members by and large may prefer to give these young actors time to pay their dues.

Updated On: 5/4/25 at 07:18 PM

[DramaTeach]

Posted: 1/29/25 at 8:10pm

GottaGetAGimmick420 said: "ElephantLoveMedley said: "Thank goodness.

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Ariana-DeBose-No-Longer-In-Talks-To-Lead-EVITA-in-London-Due-to-Scheduling-20250129"

That was fast. And given her previous interviews on the subject, she was definitely interested. Wouldn't be surprised if the word on the street actually hurt the bottom line of her negotiations...."

This is precisely what I think happened. People didn’t respond well to the prospect and that affected their decision. She hasn’t had a single success (even WSS bombed in theaters), so she’s not a draw.

[BJR]

Posted: 1/29/25 at 8:23pm

Folks here are desperate to take every opportunity to trash her.

Negotiations fall apart all the time. If anything, it's only unusual she said something in advance of them closing. Can't imagine talks were enough to discuss but they weren't actually interested and didn't "respond well to the prospect."

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 1/29/25 at 8:57pm

Vocally she didn’t seem right for the part so I view it as a win for the production.

IF Banderas is actually attached as Peron, per rumors here, they don’t need a name as Eva.

Updated On: 1/29/25 at 08:57 PM

[Quinn Wilson]

Posted: 1/29/25 at 9:00pm

DramaTeach said: "GottaGetAGimmick420 said: "ElephantLoveMedley said: "Thank goodness.

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Ariana-DeBose-No-Longer-In-Talks-To-Lead-EVITA-in-London-Due-to-Scheduling-20250129"

That was fast. And given her previous interviews on the subject, she was definitely interested. Wouldn't be surprised if the word on the street actually hurt the bottom line of her negotiations...."

This is precisely what I think happened. People didn’t respond well to the prospect and that affected their decision. She hasn’t had a single success (even WSS bombed in theaters), so she’s not a draw."

Alright naysayers. Debose is filming a series with Nicole Kidman and Jamie Lee Curtis (two of the most famous actresses in the world), playing Cordelia in Lear Rex with Al Pacino as Lear and Jessica Chastain as Goneril, and she has many other projects scheduled. If you want to hate on her for whatever reason, that’s fine. But she’s clearly a success, and she’s clearly a draw. You can have your opinion, but don’t be making up BS to support it. 

Updated On: 1/29/25 at 09:00 PM

[Play Esq.]

Posted: 1/29/25 at 9:04pm

I always come back to this when I think of the great performances Sara Ramirez would have given had she not gone the TV route. I don’t blame her, she certainly made a lot more than had she limited herself to a Broadway career, but damn, her Lady of the Lake is one of my favorite performances of all time. 

[DramaTeach]

Posted: 1/29/25 at 9:07pm

Quinn Wilson said: "DramaTeach said: "GottaGetAGimmick420 said: "ElephantLoveMedley said: "Thank goodness.

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Ariana-DeBose-No-Longer-In-Talks-To-Lead-EVITA-in-London-Due-to-Scheduling-20250129"

That was fast. And given her previous interviews on the subject, she was definitely interested. Wouldn't be surprised if the word on the street actually hurt the bottom line of her negotiations...."

This is precisely what I think happened. People didn’t respond well to the prospect and that affected their decision. She hasn’t had a single success (even WSS bombed in theaters), so she’s not a draw."

Alright naysayers. Debose is filming a series with Nicole Kidman and Jamie Lee Curtis (two of the most famous actresses in the world),playing Cordelia in Lear Rex with Al Pacino as Lear and Jessica Chastain as Goneril, and she has many other projects scheduled. If you want to hate on her for whatever reason, that’s fine. But she’s clearly a success, and she’s clearly a draw. You can have your opinion, but don’t be making up BS to support it."

I’m not sure what BS has been made up. She literally hasn’t had a success other than Hamilton, which she wasn’t a lead on. Perhaps what you listed will change things, but she’s definitely not a draw at the moment.

[CoffeeBreak]

Posted: 1/29/25 at 9:11pm

She's a good dancer but not a great singer.  It's best she won't be in Evita trying to handle those vocals.

[WiCkEDrOcKS]

Posted: 1/29/25 at 9:17pm

Quinn Wilson said: "DramaTeach said: "GottaGetAGimmick420 said: "ElephantLoveMedley said: "Thank goodness.

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Ariana-DeBose-No-Longer-In-Talks-To-Lead-EVITA-in-London-Due-to-Scheduling-20250129"

That was fast. And given her previous interviews on the subject, she was definitely interested. Wouldn't be surprised if the word on the street actually hurt the bottom line of her negotiations...."

This is precisely what I think happened. People didn’t respond well to the prospect and that affected their decision. She hasn’t had a single success (even WSS bombed in theaters), so she’s not a draw."

Alright naysayers. Debose is filming a series with Nicole Kidman and Jamie Lee Curtis (two of the most famous actresses in the world),playing Cordelia in Lear Rex with Al Pacino as Lear and Jessica Chastain as Goneril, and she has many other projects scheduled. If you want to hate on her for whatever reason, that’s fine. But she’s clearly a success, and she’s clearly a draw. You can have your opinion, but don’t be making up BS to support it."

Being a success and being a draw are two very different things. I don’t think anyone’s arguing that she’s not a success. She has an Oscar. She’s clearly talented and successful. 

She is not, however, a box office draw. The numbers don’t lie. 

Updated On: 1/29/25 at 09:17 PM

[Jeffrey Karasarides]

Posted: 1/29/25 at 9:25pm

Quinn Wilson said: "DramaTeach said: "GottaGetAGimmick420 said: "ElephantLoveMedley said: "Thank goodness.

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Ariana-DeBose-No-Longer-In-Talks-To-Lead-EVITA-in-London-Due-to-Scheduling-20250129"

That was fast. And given her previous interviews on the subject, she was definitely interested. Wouldn't be surprised if the word on the street actually hurt the bottom line of her negotiations...."

This is precisely what I think happened. People didn’t respond well to the prospect and that affected their decision. She hasn’t had a single success (even WSS bombed in theaters), so she’s not a draw."

Alright naysayers. Debose is filming a series with Nicole Kidman and Jamie Lee Curtis (two of the most famous actresses in the world),playing Cordelia in Lear Rex with Al Pacino as Lear and Jessica Chastain as Goneril, and she has many other projects scheduled. If you want to hate on her for whatever reason, that’s fine. But she’s clearly a success, and she’s clearly a draw. You can have your opinion, but don’t be making up BS to support it."

Of the movies DeBose has done since West Side Story...

Wish (lead role) - 48% critical rating on Rotten Tomatoes; box office flop.

I.S.S. (lead role) - 61% critical rating on Rotten Tomatoes; box office flop.

Argylle (supporting role) - 33% critical rating on Rotten Tomatoes; box office flop.

House of Spoils (lead role) - 48% critical rating on Rotten Tomatoes.

Kraven the Hunter (supporting role) - 17% critical rating on Rotten Tomatoes; box office flop.

 

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 1/29/25 at 9:39pm

None of those films failed because of her, though. If anything, she was the only thing that worked for most of them.

[Ptero2]

Posted: 1/29/25 at 10:17pm

Give me Hannah Cruz or give me death.

[rosscoe(au)]

Posted: 1/29/25 at 11:31pm

Call_me_jorge said: "None of those films failed because of her, though. If anything, she was the only thing that worked for most of them."


Have you seen Kraven, her acting was wooden, deer in the headlights awful. So brought all her scenes down in a movie that couldn’t raise above crap. That’s how bad she was. 

[Theatrefanboy1]

Posted: 1/30/25 at 12:06am

I do wonder if they cast a “Name” Che instead of it could still have the success ala Ricky Martin revival.  If they were to have say an Enrique Iglesias type to lead. 

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 1/30/25 at 12:14am

Call_me_jorge said: "None of those films failed because of her, though. If anything, she was the only thing that worked for most of them."

Nobody has said they failed because of her, rather her name being attached did not lift any of them up into a success. 

[barcelona20]

Posted: 1/30/25 at 12:41am

Emma Kingston isn't a household name yet, but she's the next Elphaba in London and is the ideal Evita (she's even played her already)

 

[bway1430]

Posted: 1/30/25 at 2:06am

If they are not intending to cast a 'box office draw' I could see them offering it to Samantha Pauly who played the role in Jamie Lloyd's EVITA at Regents Park.

I thought she was terrific.

 

[mshalo18]

Posted: 1/30/25 at 9:16am

bway1430 said: "If they are not intending to cast a 'box office draw' I could see them offering it to Samantha Pauly who played the role in Jamie Lloyd's EVITA at Regents Park.

I thought she was terrific.

"

Sam Pauly Don’t Cry for Me Argentina

She sounds fabulous. 

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 1/30/25 at 9:27am

bway1430 said: "If they are not intending to cast a 'box office draw' I could see them offering it to Samantha Pauly who played the role in Jamie Lloyd's EVITA at Regents Park.

I thought she was terrific.

"

I think they were specifically seeking a black actress, or at least an afro-latina, for Eva.